Episode 112: AI & Crypto – The Next Big Shift

In this episode of Crypto Options Unplugged, Imran and David break down the macro forces driving crypto markets before diving into a deep conversation with Max Gokhman, Head of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Assets at Franklin Templeton.
The team explores how geopolitical tensions, elevated oil prices, inflation expectations, bond market volatility, and central bank policy uncertainty are tightening liquidity and weighing on risk assets. They also debate whether markets are overpricing rate hike risks and what a higher inflation / steady Fed environment could mean for equities, Bitcoin, and broader crypto.
The conversation then shifts to AI, where they debate whether the current AI boom is a sustainable secular trend or the early stages of a speculative bubble. Key themes include hyperscaler infrastructure spending, semiconductor demand, monetisation risks, and whether all major AI players can justify current valuations.
In the featured interview, Max Gokhman shares his macro investing background and explains why Franklin Templeton is leaning into the convergence of AI and digital assets. The discussion covers institutional adoption, tokenisation, blockchain infrastructure, crypto regulation, and why digital assets may be evolving faster than price action suggests. The episode closes with a long-term view on crypto positioning and why patience may still be rewarded.
The following topics is covered:
00:00 – Introduction 00:29 – Range-bound Bitcoin & quiet markets 01:01 – Geopolitics, oil shock & bond market selloff 03:01 – AI stock boom & market rotation 08:11 – Earnings, liquidity backdrop & new Fed chair Walsh 12:06 – Structural bond shifts & inflation acceptance 12:57 – Guest intro: Max Gokhman From Franklin Templeton 14:05 – Max’s Crypto Journey 18:20 – Franklin Templeton’s AI & digital asset strategy 22:47 – Diversification with and within crypto 26:50 – Tokenization as institutional gateway 34:16 – Asset underperformance & AI/crypto intersection 39:10 – AI agents, tokenization & 24/7 markets 45:05 – Long-term bullishness 49:53 – Iran war, Trump midterms & Strait of Hormuz 53:06 – Macro outlook 1:00:41 – Post-interview debrief 1:04:45 – BTC volatility & options positioning 1:07:24 – Closing thoughts
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